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Sunday, August 25. 2013
Steam Department Update 08-24-2013 Posted by Nigel Bennett in Steam Department at 21:49
It was a week of very hard work leading to a huge milestone.
As described last week, we had reached the frustrating point of chasing leaks around the tube ends and a small check list of other minor issues requiring correction in order to get the boiler fit for the formal hydro test.
Brian Davies is staying at Union for three weeks to help with the work and he put in long hours with some of us who were able to spend a day at Union during the week. Several important tasks were achieved. With Jason, he was able to largely complete the cleaning and checking of the air brake valves.
However the key focus was the boiler. As the number of leaking tubes decreased, they became more frustrating and more inclined to cause an adjacent tube to leak when you rolled them. The final session on Saturday had many of us involved during the day and lasted until 11 at night but by the end, we were down to one super heater flue that has a small leak around it that we expect will seal itself when the boiler is fully heated, although it drips very slowly under hydro pressure.
So, Brian, Jim and I were back in the shop at 8:30 on Sunday, unfortunately not to assist with the last day of Thomas but to meet with the FRA inspector for the formal hydro test. I am glad to say that the old lady passed !. Aside from the tube end and a few drips from tri-cocks and blow down valves she held pressure very well with no sign of leakage.
So Saturday was rather a frustrating day. Very little on 1630, aside from the tubes, could be worked on until the hydro was completed.
Cameron and Phil worked with Tom on the bolster for the Shay.
Richard and Ed continued to work on preparing the cladding for lagging in the cab.
Bob finally received a suitable breaker to link the planer into the supply panel. So he was able to continue work on running power to the planer.
However on Sunday, after the test, a great deal of work opened up.
The tubes can now be beaded so, in preparation for that, I spent quite a while in the smokebox grinding tube ends to the exact 1/4 inch required to form good bead. Later Brian took over and, by the time that I left, we were close to the point where he can bead all flues and tubes in the smokebox that are to be beaded. Ideally we want to get this done in the next couple of days so that the beaded tubes can be tested for leaks by Wednesday.
On Wednesday we hope to take off the dome cover, drain the boiler and start drying it out so that the inspector can carry out the internal inspection on Friday. This is a Federal requirement. When a boiler has been over pressured, as it is for the formal hydro test, it must be inspected to ensure that nothing internal, such as the brace attachments, has been damaged or loosened. After this, any pressure testing is strictly limited to boiler pressure (180 psi). If any pressure beyond this is applied a further internal inspection is required.
Beading of the smokebox end is essential before a lot of work starting with refitting the super heater elements and then moving on to the rest of the smokebox equipment can be undertaken.
In the cab, work will now start on lagging the firebox and fitting the cladding so that all the controls can be finally refitted. With the hydro complete, we can now start covering the boiler again. Up until today, none of this could be started as a clear view of all the surfaces of the boiler was required for the inspection.
In the firebox, Jerry applied the protective paint to the patch and rivets below where the grates will fit. Once this is dry, the grates that have been removed while we worked on the patch, will be refitted.
One key thing about the milestone today is that, while she may currently look less complete than she did in 2011, we have actually passed the key inspection step for which we were preparing in Spring 2011 when we hit the problem with the firebox.
So overall a very successful week. While not too much visible has changed, but we have removed the barrier to a whole lot of tasks that will make 1630 look much more like an operating locomotive again in the next month.
Tuesday, August 20. 2013
A lot of work, a good deal of progress and some frustration. That is probably a good summary of the week in the steam shop. While a few of the team were able to assist with Thomas, most of us were hard at work in the shop.
Everything is focused on getting the hydro test for 1630 completed.
Tom, Mike and a small team worked long hours on Wednesday to get the two stays installed. They were in place ready for the Saturday team. Brian Davis and Jason, inside the firebox, worked with Brian and Sean, on the bucker in the cab, to hammer over the ends inside the firebox to compete the installation. This was a rotten job as the stays are high up above the arch tubes on the back sheet of the firebox. This makes it a very awkward place to operate the air hammer. However, they did it and the stays proved leak free in all the subsequent testing.
Life was no easier for the team in the firebox because we need to have the water in the boiler heated to 100 - 105 F and this takes a while for the pool heater to achieve. So, while they worked in the box, we had increasingly warm water circulating around it (not up to the level of the two stays but well up the sides of the box). So, by working inside a hot water radiator we were able to ensure that none of us who worked on the firebox tube ends during the day were in any danger of suffering from the cold on an 80 degree day !!.
By lunchtime we were able to apply pressure to the boiler. The more significant leaks from three weeks ago were corrected so there was now no problem with getting to the full pressure required for the hydro (1.25 times operating pressure so 225 psi). Various leaks were found and corrected. This is an iterative process, test, identify, tighten and retest. At one stage on Saturday we did think that we might be able to do the formal hydro on Sunday. However tiny leaks around tube ends proved frustratingly difficult to close. This is one of the joys of working with a steam locomotive boiler. Since the tube sheet consists of many holes close together, the force of expanding one tube can easily cause a minor movement to the next tube so you can spend a good deal of time chasing tiny leaks from one tube to the next before you get everything tight. I went back on Sunday morning to work with Brian, who is staying at Union for 3 weeks or so, and we still further reduced the number of leaking tube ends. However, it will be a continuing process during the week and probably into next weekend to get all the tube ends completely tight.
The pictures look extremely dull but are all the better for that. The tiny leaks can be seen around tube ends in the smokebox.
The overall rate of leakage is very gratifying. This small area is now the most significant group of tube ends to be tightened. You have to look closely in the center to see the small seepage that we must stop.
The real achievement is not apparent at the smokebox end. The sheet and tubes are actually under 225 psi pressure when you look at the gauge in the cab!!.
The new stays are leak free at 225 psi.
The pressure drops from 225 at barely 1 psi per minute, an indication that the leaks are tiny in volume. However, where they are in areas like the tube ends, they must be completely corrected. So a week of frustrating work, tightening groups of tube ends and then checking the results with another pressure test lies ahead. If we get too frustrated, it is good to think back to the fact that, not long ago, the boiler was wide open. Now we can routinely plan to leave it totally full with minimal leakage for days on end.
The one unexpected item discovered was the union nut at the bottom of the fireman's gauge glass. Tiny droplets of water appearing thru what should be solid brass were an indication of hairline cracking. Tom now had quite a few hours of work to produce a replacement for the hydro test but I understand that this was fitted on Sunday afternoon.
Updates from Brian so far indicate that most of the leaks have been corrected by Tuesday so we hope that we can move on to other work next weekend around the planned hydro test on Sunday.
Sunday, August 11. 2013
Steam Department Update 08-10-2013 Posted by Nigel Bennett in Steam Department at 11:03
There has been a lot of progress in the steam shop in the last two weeks. The team was hard at work last weekend while I was relaxing in the UK (and having an interesting visit to the Great Central Railway). A lot more was done during the week and this weekend, but unfortunately we have seen the date when we expect to be ready for the formal hydro test drop back a week.
The reason for the delay is frustratingly simple. As reported two weeks back, the unexpected issue found in the first pressure testing was leakage from the sockets of two flexible stays. This necessitated the removal and replacement of the stays and their sockets. While we have some spares on it site, it turned out that we had in stock only one suitable blank, from which to make the new stays. Tom managed to locate a source that could supply more from stock but these only arrived this week. (The available from stock is rather critical as they can be made but the lead time for this is 6 weeks plus !).
So the second of the stays is still being machined and ................. it is sort of difficult to pressure the boiler to test all the other defect correction when you have a 1 inch hole in it where the stay should be !.
During the last two weeks a lot has been done on 1630:
· Over the last two Saturdays all the tube ends, that were identified as having leakage, have been re-rolled. This included both super heater and small tubes at both ends.
· The old stay sockets were ground flush and removed from the backhead .
· On Thursday evening Dennis welded the new stay sockets into the backhead. This requires that the socket be accurately positioned using a special tool seen below. The socket is positioned on the tapered holder and the tapered thread is then screwed into the hole in the inner firebox.
The end can then be slid along the shaft until the socket is tight against the backhead. It is held by the rod in the correct orientation to align exactly as the stay will do.
Held in this way the socket can be tack welded into place. The tool is then removed and the socket welded into place.
The purpose of the weld is not to hold the socket against pressure (the stay and the fact that the socket is far larger than the hole in the backhead will do that) but to ensure that the seal to the backhead is steam tight.
By the end of the evening both sockets were in place and ready for their new stays.
· Dennis also made good a small area of the caulking between the inner firebox sheet and the mud ring that had shown some seepage under pressure;
· Mike, Jim and Jerry used the special taps to enlarge and thread the stay holes in the inner firebox sheet ready to receive the new stays, while Mike prepared the copper rings that seal the cap into the socket.
· Aside from investing a lot of time locating the spares, Tom has been machining the replacement stays. One is now threaded and just about ready to fit while the other is getting under way. A significant amount of work is required to turn each blank into a stay ready for fitting. This shows a blank alongside one of the old stays.
Each one requires:
o Slotting the head of the ball (to allow the stay to be screwed into the firebox);
o Polishing any ridges off the ball;
o Drilling the tell tale hole along the length of the stay;
o Reducing the diameter to the exact size required for threading. (Each time that a stay is replaced the size is increased by 1/32nd as the new thread is cut into the inner firebox). Just to ensure life is not simple, the two being replaced prove to be marginally different in size.
o Finally cutting the thread on the stay.
o Only once this is done can the stay be screwed into the firebox and hammered over. After all the preparatory work, the final fitting is relatively quick.
o The current plan is that the machining and fitting will be done Sunday and during the coming week.
· The fireman's side water gauge was removed and refitted to correct a leak detected under pressure;
· The engineer's side water glass was fitted so that it can be part of the next pressure test;
· The unions to both check valves were split and remade. It was found that the copper sealing ring on the engineer's side was missing. This could explain why this was leaking under pressure. A new ring was annealed and the union remade so we believe that this should be much improved.
· With all the defects that were noted under pressure corrected, but being unable to test this work, we moved on to other tasks:
o Jason worked on examination and cleaning of the air brake valves;
o Mike and Phil started preparing the air compressor for operation. The valves in the compressor all need to be opened, cleaned, lapped where necessary, and lubricated so that it is ready for testing as part of the steam test. Once the cleaning is done we will plan to test it initially using compressed air;
o The cab was cleaned up and the first major group of back head fittings was reinstalled. This includes the flange and hydrostatic lubricators. These were fitted first as they are needed to allow the air pump supply line to be pressurized. It is good to see the cab starting to take shape again !.
So, in the next week, everything rests on the progress of Tom and the team can make in machining and fitting the stays. If they can complete this during the week, we will plan to test the tightness of the boiler and fittings again next weekend.
Monday, July 29. 2013
Steam Department Update 07-27-2013 Posted by Nigel Bennett in Steam Department at 15:39
This was a big day at the steam shop. All activity was focused on 1630 and the first testing of the boiler completely full of water and under some pressure.
It is a fairly lengthy process to set the boiler up for pressure testing. The boiler and water need to be fairly warm (about 100 F) for testing. So aside, from pumping 2500 gallons of water from the milk car to the boiler, there is about 5 hours of circulating the water thru the gas fired pool heater to bring the whole system up to an even temperature.
Starting in the morning it was late afternoon before the whole system was at temperature. During that time we spotted and corrected minor leaks around the inspection and dome covers.
Removing the dome cover to fix the seal gave this interesting shot into the open dome. The boiler is now about as full of water as it can be.
With everything sealed we started to apply pressure to check for leaks. In general, we were fairly pleased with the way that the work we have done stood up to pressure. There were maybe 20 small to tiny leaks disclosed around tube ends. In retrospect one mistake was that we did not fix leaks around two super heater flues in the front tube sheet. These were very small sources of drips under gravity but became the limiting factor when we reached 150 psi.
The firebox patch was tight aside from a small spot in the caulked joint with the mud ring which showed a slight leak at 150 psi. This should be easily fixed by a little more caulking. A couple of rivets close to the patch showed signs of weeping. This is not surprising given the expansion and contraction associated with the welding and can be fixed by a little work with the caulking hammer.
The nuisance and minor setback was an area that we had not worked on. We found tiny pinhole cracks in the sockets of two flexible stays in the back head. These may have been there when she last ran as they are so small that we would probably not have seen any leakage from under the lagging and jacket. Certainly they would not have caused any loss of pressure in the hydro-testing.
However, knowing that they are cracked, even a pinhole, they must be replaced. This involves grinding off the inner end of the stay and, after heating the end of the stay, trying to unscrew the stay from the socket. If this fails you have the much more time consuming job of drilling out the stay at the inner end. However, it worked well. By Saturday evening both stay bolts were out, without the need to drill either. In this view you can see the empty sockets after the stays were removed.
On Sunday I started cutting one of the sockets off from the back head and, in the afternoon, Mike and Tom completed the job. So both of the sockets shown above are now gone and we are ready to fit the new sockets. Tom will then need to drill and thread two new stay bolts so they can be refitted. This will mean no pressure testing next weekend but hopefully all will be back and the leaks fixed by 8/10.
On this basis, I met with the FRA inspector on site Sunday and we scheduled the formal hydro test for 8/18, subject to a successful second stage test for leaks the previous weekend.
Just about all effort was concentrated on 1630. However, a big event was that both Bill Chyna and Glenn Parkhurst visited. Glenn for the first time since his motor cycle accident in May. Glad to say they were both in good form and Glenn is hoping to be able to join us again when he has his prostheses fitted in the next few months.
I am heading for the UK on business this week and will not be around the shop next weekend. So I am hoping to see a lot of progress when I get back in two weeks time !.
Sunday, July 21. 2013
Steam Department Update 07-20-2013 Posted by Nigel Bennett in Steam Department at 21:55
It has been a really busy week for me at the museum hence a rather late blog update!!.
I spent Wednesday at the steam shop with Phil and Ed. The main focus was on sealing all significant leaks at the tube ends that showed when the boiler was filled with water. By end of Wednesday we were to the point that , when filled well above the crown sheet, we had only minor dribbles and drips.
Saturday was a normal and fairly successful work day at the shop and Sunday I spent working with the Jim West and the Operations Department on switching for the Diesel Days event. So the blog is a little late this week !.
So what happened Saturday at the steam shop?. Overall a great deal was achieved although there was one set back which meant that we were not able to get as far as our most ambitious targets.
On 1630 I guess I had better try to answer one question I was asked a lot at the event on Sunday - when will you be hydro-testing the boiler?. The answer has to depend upon what exactly you mean by hydro-testing. As the pre-requisite for moving on the steam testing we must demonstrate that the boiler can be pressured using heated water to 125% of operating pressure (so 225 p.s.i. in our case) and sustain that pressure with minimal leakage for a period. Our current expectation is to reach that point in about 3 weeks. However our path to that involves using water, at first simply filling the boiler, then applying increasing pressure to identify and test the correction of any leakage. This is the process that we are currently following. On Saturday our objective was to finally seal any leakage at the tube ends on simply filling the boiler and then seal the boiler to allow some pressure to be applied.
· Following on from the work that Phil and I did on Wednesday, a team including Phil, Collin, Eric and Sean took it in turns to identify and seal the last little leaks that showed by carefully rolling the identified tube ends slightly more. This was hard and tedious work but, by early afternoon, the tube ends appeared to be dry with the boiler full of water.
· Dennis annealed the copper sealing rings for the two covers.
· In parallel with this one team worked on cleaning the threads of the studs that attach the dome cover and another on fitting the cover of the inspection hatch. These are the last two components required to seal the boiler and allow pressure to be applied.
· All seemed to be going well until one of the studs securing the inspection hatch sheared off during tightening.
Luckily everything seems to be shaping up well on replacing the stud. Dennis was in the shop and did a great job of welding a nut onto the broken stud and, to our great relief, this stood up to several of us pulling on a large wrench and the stud unscrewed from the seating. In this view you can see the broken stud with the nut welded onto it.
This was very good news as the alternative, had it failed to extract, would have been to grind it flush and drill it out, potentially a day's work. The studs screwing into a boiler are quite unusual. The thread into the seating is tapered and must be specially machined. However, by end of day, Tom, Cameron and Bob had substantially machined the new stud and, when I dropped by on Sunday, work was progressing. We should have it replaced ready to fit the cover next weekend.
· With the stud out, work focused on fitting the dome cover. This was the first time that we had used the new boom for the forklift, which was made with this type of lift in mind. It was highly successful. The cover was lifted by the forklift in the shop and placed fairly easily.
It was then tightened down without issue. This was a great deal easier than the previous method that required the locomotive to be pulled outside to use the boom truck to place the cover.
· Jason tested the remaining gauges, which all proved to be accurate, so these are now ready for refitting.
· Jane finished stripping the air tanks. These are now ready for painting.
· With Jim West's assistance we refilled the milk car so should now have a water supply sufficient to support testing under pressure. We have now run about 9000 gallons of water thru the boiler which should have removed most of the debris from sand blasting. From now on we should be able to re-circulate the water.
In other areas:
· Stu and Bob ran the wiring for the planer. The one remaining requirement is to locate a breaker to fit our old style supply panel.
· Dennis was rebuilding the damaged grease keeps for the axle boxes on #428.
So a lot was achieved this week. Hopefully next weekend we should be able to fit the inspection hatch and start testing under pressure.
Friday, July 19. 2013
3rd Annual Benefit at Sanfilippo Estate Posted by Nigel Bennett in Steam Department at 20:00
Sunday 14th July was the third annual Steam Department Benefit at the fabulous Sanfilippo Estate.
I believe that a wonderful time was had by all who attended. Certainly I took some friends who had not attended before and they all judged it one of the highlights of their year so far. The collection of antique music machines is beyond description and you could spend hours watching these alone.
The fairground organs and carousel are superb pieces.
The grand Wurlitzer organ is both spectacular to see and, when played by an organist of the caliber of Dave (Jeff's brother), provides an enthralling performance. Some of my more musical friends watched in complete fascination. Dave seems to become one with the instrument with both arms and legs in constant movement around the keyboards, stops and pedals.
A new addition this year was the showing of a Buster Keaton silent movie. It was fascinating to see the organ used for its original purpose, providing the sound for the showing.
Many thanks to the museum volunteers who assisted in running the event. With the exception of JD who was elsewhere at the time, they are shown here with Jeff and Dave on the locomotive in the carousel house.
Thanks again to Jeff for organizing the event, to his brother Dave for another outstanding performance and to the Sanfilippo Foundation for the access to their wonderful collection.
Sunday, July 14. 2013
Steam Department Update 07-13-2013 Posted by Nigel Bennett in Steam Department at 11:13
A busy day with some big ups and downs in the steam shop. There is not much to see externally and only one photograph this week but this shows a big milestone. We put water into the boiler for the first time.
The focus was on 1630 and above all on starting to test the newly fitted tubes for leaks.
· In the morning the focus was on closing every hole below the crown sheet level:
the last remaining wash out plugs were installed, lubricated with graphite paste and tightened down;
the pressure gauges were finally fitted and plumbed in to the boiler;
all remaining flexible stay caps were cleaned, lubricated with graphite paste and tightened down.
· Just after lunchtime this was done. We linked up the hoses from the milk car and started pumping. To be clear, there is no intention to pressurize at this point. We need to fill and empty the boiler several times before we can apply pressure. Pressure testing is carried out with water heated to about 100 degrees by circulating thru the pool heater. It is rather important that we wash out debris such as residual sand blast material before trying to re-circulate the water thru the pump !. These filling and draining cycles also allow initial testing of the sealing the tubes and other parts of the boiler. While no external pressure is applied, the boiler is at least 6 feet to the crown sheet so there is a good deal of pressure simply from the depth of water.
The first filling was rather disappointing for those of us who had not seen this done before. I had expected some leakage from the tubes, where they seal into the sheets, when water was first added but had probably not expected leakage from 30 or more of the small tubes, some of it quite extensive. On closer review, it indicated some variation in how much we had expanded the tubes at different times. Interesting, we were not conscious on any great difference as we did the expansion but the water was very revealing. The smokebox was excellent. There are no more than 4 tubes there that show any leakage and then no more than a dribble. Great job by Brian, who did most of this area. In the firebox, the engineer's side was relatively good while the lower fireman's side had a substantial number of tubes with a lot of leakage. Clearly we did not get these as tight as other areas.
So we noted the leaks, dumped the water, which came out looking really dirty, and got working. Brian and others set up the air motor driven expander and worked thru the list of 30 or so small tubes that had been noted with leaks. At the same time, others worked on a few issues noted such as a weeping plug, a couple of stay caps that had been missed and a check valve that was not fully closed.
A second filling in early evening was very satisfying. Although there was still a lot of leakage from super heater flues - no surprise as we had not worked these, the improvement in the small tubes was remarkable. We still had around 8 with minor dribbles but these were generally ones we had not previously noted, probably because the leakage was missed at the first pass due to the far greater leakage from other tubes. All those that had been worked on after the first test were dry. In addition the minor leaks other than at tube ends were all now dry.
The shot above may look a bit confusing but is a big milestone for us. Water now covers all the tubes. Compare this to shots 6 months ago, when this area was wide open and you could look down on the open holes in the firebox tube sheet. It also shows the patches of debris lifting off the crown sheet as the water starts to cover it. This is the last area from which we must wash the debris before we can circulate the water thru the pump and heater to carry out pressure testing.
The water was dumped again. This time it did not look significantly different from the input water. We will need to make sure that have thoroughly washed any debris off the top of the firebox crown but it looks as if we are now close to the point that the boiler is clean enough to allow us to circulate the water.
Mike and I worked into the evening hand rolling the first of the super heater flues that were flagged as leaking. Hopefully we can get the same "night and day" result on these that we achieved with the small tubes.
· While we worked on the water filling and tube ends, Mike, Tom and Jerry had been working on the blanking plate for the dry pipe. The throttle is now blanked off and ready for pressure testing.
· Richard, Rick and others worked on the studs and nuts for the inspection hatch and dome cover. These are now clean and the threads prepared ready to fit these covers. Hopefully in the next week we can have the tube ends sealed tight under water pressure and the hatches in place so that we can move to the next step of applying some pressure.
· Jane did a great job stripping the air tanks. These are now nearly ready to prime and repaint. This is a very unpleasant job involving long stints of needle chipping and wire brushing which creates nasty black dust. Anyway, nearly done.
· Stu checked out and regenerated the softener in the water supply box car. This confirms that we have a full supply of clean water to keep on with the testing . Now all we need to do is get the diesels off the end of the steam shop spur so that we can move the water car to and from the supply water supply!!.
While almost the whole team was busy on 1630, Bob and Stu have been working steadily on the wiring for the planer. Much of the conduit is now in place and we are moving toward the point when we will be able to start testing the operation.
So it was a pretty successful day and we look forward to further testing next week.
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