Wednesday, June 10. 2015More on the Mt. HarvardThursday, May 28, I again, made the long drive up to Mid Continent RR Museum to work on my new favorite project! BTY, if any of you are interested in a unique and beautiful experience of a recreation of an early 20th century railroad you must visit this museum. Lots of wooden passenger cars, and some in service for Father's Day! Maybe by that time the No 2 team loco might be fired up and running for the first time in many, many years!! Southwest Wisconsin is very scenic with rolling hills and the "Dells" are close by. Anyway, enough of that sales pitch! Here are more pictures of the interior. As you may notice the lights are working. I purchased thirty six, 34 volt bulbs, remove the old ones and installed the correct voltage bulbs. Now the system is any working on 34volt DC! Yes, you can find all my pictures under Bob Kutella's pictures in the Members Photo Gallery. My first stop on, Thursday,was at the Lakes States Railway Historical Association, Inc to pick up all historical documents concerning the "Harvard" The previous owner of the car, Richard Goddard, is the President of this non-profit professional collection management corporation. They have just moved into a $350,000 new facility in Barbaroo, Wi. What a great place to house historic documents. Climate controlled, computer access, etc. Richard gave me a tour and I was quite impressed. They had just received a rather large donation of CB&Q steam loco drawings! This enhances their collection which includes a very substantial collection of Rock Island steam loco drawings. After the tour we sat down and along with Ray Burmaster explained and showed me just some of the documents and archival material he collected over the years on the Mt. Harvard. I sure have found out much more information since purchasing the Mt. Harvard. Its an amazing story how this sleeper was saved for preservation and then moved from Terra Haute, Indiana, to Missouri, and then to Southern Wisconsin, then to Mid Continent and now hopefully with your help to Irm. Yes, it did operate on the Milwaukee Road but only for a short time between 1951 and 1953. It was assigned to the Milwaukee Road COLUMBIAN, on the Spokane to Tacoma-Seattle segment early in 1951, and by mid-year on the Chicago-Twin Cities run. Most of the time it was assigned to the Pullman Pool starting on 11-19-42 and continuing to operate on the S. P. until resolution of the Pullman anti-trust suit. This information is from my memory so all dates might not be exact. In early 1954 it was stored in St. Louis and in October of that year it was sent to government storage for strategic reserve in Terra Haute Indiana. Why Terra Haute? I believe there was a U.S. Army Ordinance Depot there, with a rather large railroad facility. It sat there for many years being held for only national emergences! It along with about 160 other "heavies" sat waiting for the call that, thank heavens, never happened. What am I talking about? I presume a major war with? You have to remember President Eisenhower, was leading the country, the cold war was increasing and if you had to move troops from one area to another, quickly, troop trains were the fastest way. Just look at WWII movements. Anyway, these are my ideas on the situation at that time and why all these cars were in storage. Richard gave a list of names of cars held and each individual's condition. Quickly, going through the list I saw maybe two that were saved. All the rest were sent to the scraper. Yikes!!! I also have a copy of the appraisal from the Pullman company on the worth of the Mt. Harvard and letters asking for the donation of said to the Wabash Frisco & Pacific Association located south of ST. Louis, Missouri. Date of donation May 25 1961! They asked for a business car to be used on there 12" steam operation line as an office ,etc. and the Mt. Harvard was offered. Pullman appraisal of this car was between $7,500 and $8,000. If any you recall living in that era, that was a lot of money in 1961. The average auto was selling for maybe $1,000 to $2,000 at the time, Yes?The solarium end with lights. Missing is the old sofa. I also disposed of it this trip. Now, anyone have any Pullman furniture to fill this area? Tuesday, June 2. 2015
Middle of May progress report Posted by Roger Kramer
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Comments (11) Middle of May progress reportMay has been a rather on again, off again month in the coach dept. One week its been like June and the next it been like March. So... some of our projects have been slowed by the weather changes. As goofy as it has been we still manage to get things accomplished. Our main focus, again, has been the upgrading of our Rock Island fleet of passenger cars. With the upcoming Day Out With Thomas event we are continuing the work in the 2612 and upgrading the interior in the 2555. The ceiling is the last of the interior painting projects on the 2612. Working on the interior ceiling is very comfortable when the weather is this cool. Standing on a ladder and painting over head in 90 degrees is not my kind of fun. I thought it would be a good idea to start the ceiling project when it was relatively still cool. So we began the painting the ceiling about three weeks ago. With the help of Chase Renwick the job is almost done. Yet to do is the painting of the steel supports brackets. Those can be done at any time but at least the majority of work is completed. Not pictured but equally important is the continuing of removal of the old yellow paint on the exterior. Howard and Mary Gierer and Austin Harvey have been chipping and priming this last side.Robert Olsen is installing four of twelve ceiling vents that were stripped of old paint and then repainted Monday, May 18. 2015A Major AnnouncementThe Illinois Railway Museum is announcing the major acquisition of a Pullman ten section buffet lounge solarium. This complete heavy weight sleeper has been donated to the museum by Roger Kramer. The Name is the Mt. Harvard and it was built in December, 1923 by Pullman Works here in Chicago. Originally, designated a Sleeper-Observation it had ten sections, a lounge, a women's lavatory, a men's smoking room and lavatory, and the observation platform. At 1923 prices it cost $32,587.00. Our car, the Mt. Harvard, was one of fifteen cars named in this Mt. series. It was built to Lot 4742, Plan 3521. These fifteen cars were built for general service and not assigned to any specific railroad. In 1935 the car was equipped with air conditioning at the Chicago plant. Again in 1939 its original floor plan was revised and rebuilt to Plan 3521-L with the enclosure of the open observation platform. In addition, a small buffet [kitchen] was added and the lounge was updated and enlarged. This work took nearly three months at a cost of $13,383.00. To my knowledge this is only one of three cars left in existence in this configuration. Mt. Baxter and Mt. Broderick being the only other sleepers left in this lot. It now is identified as a 10 section Buffet Lounge Solarium Observation. It has only one vestibule entrance, next to that is the ladies' lavatory, then comes the ten sections[five on either side], the men's smoking room and lavatory, the small buffet, an lastly the 15 seat lounge solarium observation room. That room included a table for four, a settee for two, and another nine chairs separated by four tables for lamps. Yes, the lounge area has recently been repainted. We do need Pullman chairs. Anyone have some to donate? Taken again, April 14, 2015 complete view of the section seating area. All upper berths have their mattresses and coat hooks. Notice the ceiling fixtures and globes still in place. |
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Mon, 09-08-2025 08:22
Good job on the Burlington Nortern 9976. OK.
Tue, 08-12-2025 12:56
No new news that I have heard of thus far.
Tue, 08-12-2025 12:53
I'll also be doing another update on it soon. Keep en eye out for that.
Tue, 08-12-2025 12:47
A little work was done to it for Diesel Days this year. You'll see photos floating around for the temporary short term job that was done to make it [...]
Wed, 08-06-2025 13:01
Is steam car CN 15444 going to be coming to museum several times it was to be moved to muesum
Sat, 07-19-2025 18:56
Yeah, sadly it's still there as of 7/19/2025
Thu, 06-12-2025 19:14
Its been 14 years guys, where is the unit? Like really? Did you guys misplace it? Or are repairs taking that long? At this point be might we will have [...]
Wed, 04-09-2025 17:40
Jamie Thanks for the update. She's gonna shine like every thing else you guys do! Smeds
Thu, 03-06-2025 16:28
Yes, there is a wye. Those two have been MU'ed on diesel days a year or two ago.
Wed, 03-05-2025 14:04
7009 number boards look good. Is there a way to turn a locomotive around at IRM? In case you ever had a mind to connect 7009 and 6847?
Fri, 03-29-2024 21:26
We're slackers and spend more time working on the equipment in the shop than keeping all you readers updated. We'll work on it, but I'm sure updates [...]
Thu, 03-14-2024 08:02
What happened to the Department Blog? It's been over 2 years and I still regularly check for updates, but nothing comes...