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Friday, April 21. 2017Steam Department April 2017
It has been a Spring of mixed fortunes.
Progress on #1630 has been excellent. On Sunday 4/9 she passed her FRA observed 125% hydro test. So, work then focused on getting her ready for the internal inspection scheduled next week and doing all the final assembly tasks to make her ready form steam testing.
The inspection hatch was removed and air circulation installed to thoroughly dry out the interior of the boiler to allow the internal inspection. From here the path is fairly clear. Once the internal is done, the boiler can be sealed again and filled with water for a final test at 180 psi, basically to ensure that the hatches have been properly refitted. The water level can then be lowered to normal level and we can load her up to do the steam test.
Work proceeded on many fronts with a large team in the shop on Saturday.
The fireman’s side connecting rod and motion rods were reinstalled with the new bearings that have been made during the Spring. The new main rod bearing fitted nicely
The new crosshead bearing was an excellent fit. Well done Eric and Brian. The new bearing is in one piece, while the old one was split. This was apparent normal practice. When new the bearing is a single machined bearing. After wear, it is split vertically in the middle so that wear can be taken up by adjusting the wedge seen at the rear of the bearing in the rod.
Much was learned in reinstalling the motion rods!!. The pins are installed from behind. Clearly the connecting rod must go on first as it is behind the motion rods. However, the pins in the motion may be impossible to install if the connecting rod or piston rod are behind the point where they must be fitted.
The key problem in the picture above is that the union link is not connected!. The “small” snag is that there is no position where you can insert the pin between the union link and the combination lever without the piston rod being in the way!. Amid increasing frustration, the secret was finally revealed (after fitting and removing the pin between the connecting rod and the crosshead twice)!!. The connecting rod must be fitted BUT ONLY MOUNTED AT THE WHEEL END!. If the connecting rod is not mounted to the crosshead it can be lowered and the motion moved enough to allow the pins to be inserted into the motion rods. The extra couple of inches that the connecting rod is raised when pinned to the crosshead and the inability to move the motion when attached to the crosshead makes all the difference. So pinning the connecting rod to the crosshead is the LAST step!.
While not as aggressive as last Winter the work program this Winter has made significant improvements to the running gear.
A wedge bolt that has been broken for many years was replaced, which will allow adjustment of all axle boxes to be carried out normally. The adjusters are long threaded rods with an expanded end that fits into the hole seem here in the wedge itself. Adjusting the rod where it passes thru the binder allows the wedge to be raised or lowered to adjust the clearance between the axle box and the frame.
In addition a damaged bolt in one of the binders was replaced. Again, something that has been there for a long time. This shows the binder removed and primed in preparation for reinstallation. These parts are bolted tightly into the frame from below across the base of the horn guide, effectively converting the “U” shaped guide into a box to avoid any distortion under force. The binders are machined to fit tightly into the horn guides in the frame so it is the machined faces of the binder that stop the frame flexing not the bolts.
A significant patch was welded into the bottom of the smokebox. We have noticed some seepage when washing out the smokebox each Fall and this proved to be an indication of a significant thin area in the smokebox wrapper. A contract welder welded in a patch and built up the area, which should ensure that the smokebox bottom is good for at least the rest of the 15 year certificate.
In addition a new section of pipe was formed and fitted at the front of the blower line. The main length of the pipe was replaced last year but the section fitting here was not replaced then. On inspection it had lost maybe 2/3 of its original thickness
A new pipe was formed and fitted.
A last minute issue arose when a crack was discovered on inspection of the steel pad that sits between the locomotive and tender buffers. However, that was welded during the week and should now be ready to install. The two auxiliary drawbars can be fitted while she is in the shop but the main drawbar can only be finally fitted with the help of a switching locomotive as the sprung buffers between locomotive and tender must be compressed to allow this to be finally connected.
In parallel with the “improvement” work, the many tasks of the annual inspection were completed successfully. The one remaining inspection item is to hammer test the firebox stays during the 180 psi hydro test.
Probably the most troubling issue of the Winter was a leak that developed in the tender water tank. This has been sealed by the application of several coats of a preservation / sealant. However, it is an indication of a serious problem that we will have to deal with at some stage. The tender tank is basically life expired. Corrosion has thinned the bottom and lower sides to an extent that is real difficult to assess. This makes it a tricky call on how much you do to prepare the surface for any treatment. Getting to clean metal is highly recommended for most sealants to work well but discovering that your search for clean metal has exposed the timber on which the tank sits would be really bad!. It is very possible that, in the not too distant future, we will have to lift the tank off the frame and either do some substantial patching to the existing bottom or replace it.
However, for now at least, this has been a very successful Winter on #1630. Within the next couple of weeks, she should be moved out to the steam lead for steam testing and service.
I wish that similar progress could be reported on the Shay. One setback is that we no longer have Brian Davis as the project manager. It proved problematic to effectively manage the project remotely.
A great deal has been achieved but the remaining barrier to completion is the fabrication and welding work on the smokebox. Fitting of the new bottom was completed but the inner protecting sheet has still to be fitted and additional work is required as the smokebox front was found to be too thin to repair and replacement is being fabricated.
The new components for the blast pipe have been made and test fitted. Here the exhaust casting, joining the motor to the blast pipe has been test fitted.
The spark arrestor assemble and chimney petticoat were test fitted but have now bee removed to allow access to fit the inner sheet on the bottom of the smokebox. Much of the new grate mechanism has been assembled but a couple of studs in the firebox have proved a problem and the holes for these will need to be welded up so that they can be re-drilled.
The lagging is all in place and the cladding is also largely complete.
Rick and his helpers have made great progress on the front beam. First the bottom beam was cut and chamfered on the edges to fit into the heavy channel that secures it to the locomotive frame.
The channel was then test fitted to the locomotive so that the beam could be installed correctly.
Once the bottom beam is in place the top beam can be placed to allow accurate marking of the holes to be drilled to fit the rods that link the two beams. This is all temporary fitting at present. A large beam that connects the center of the beam to the main frame cross member has yet to be fitted and this cannot be done until welding under the smokebox is completed.
In parallel with the work on the front beam, a lot of painting has been progressed.
And do not forget ….. the Annual Steam Department Benefit is approaching again. Last year the proceeds from this enabled us to install the large sand blasting cabinet.
This year the event is on Sunday June 25th. This is a great event for everyone, even if you do not have interest in the steam department the San Filipo collection of music machines and the giant Wurlitzer are amazing. Tickets are now on sale at http://www.irm.org/events/steamdeptbenefit.html so come join us on June 25th.
Nigel
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Nigel,
Great to hear from you again after all these months!
While I am glad to hear great progress on the work in the IRM steam shop, some of you might be aware that the feud between Skip Lichter and the Mid Continent Railway unfortunately did not end well regarding the operation of his newly-restored steam loco, Saginaw Timber #2. That said, according to a TRAINS magazine article from February, it seems that Skip is looking for a new home for the engine. That said, has IRM considered or is in the process of reaching out to Skip regarding bringing the #2 back to Union? While I personally would advise IRM against entering into a lease agreement (because anything can go wrong), considering how IRM has done a great job taking care of the 1630, I have no doubt you guys would take care of the #2 and it would be great for museum operations. I personally believe that if some funds could be found/raised, it would be a great idea to make Skip an offer to buy the engine from him, as he is getting older (I met him myself last year) and would perhaps be at peace knowing that his engine would be permanently and properly taken care of at a good new home.
While it's honestly hard to say if this could be done, if anything, I just thought I'd bring this up as food for thought as it is such a shame that after all Skip did to rebuild the #2 the fiasco had to end the way it did.
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Nathan
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2017-04-22 00:20
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Clearly the issues surrounding Saginaw #2 and Mid Continent are well known in the steam locomotive fraternity. Clearly it is a very nice working locomotive in a sad position and it would be great to see it run at IRM. Is there sufficient commonality of interest to provide the basis of a deal?. Probably not.
Given that IRM has one working steam locomotive and expects soon to have another, the need for a third is limited. The brutal economic reality for IRM is that a third operating locomotive would need to be justified by an expectation that running multiple steamers at a weekend would attract more paying visitors to cover the cost of fuel and the work that is required every Winter to complete the annual inspection. One that required additional “out of pocket” costs beyond these would be even more difficult to justify.
Leasing or “use and commit to make good” deals are very dangerous. We work on a very limited budget relying on a LOT of volunteer effort. An agreement that committed substantial effort to a third locomotive, that we do not own, would be very risky. A number of deals, a long time ago, have left IRM working to establish ownership of items of deteriorating 3rd party equipment on our site. Any new deals to house 3rd party equipment at Union will be a difficult sell.
Buying?. Nice as she is, it is difficult to say that #2 fills such a significant gap in our collection that it would justify major investment of general museum funds to pay anything like market price for her. If an individual or group with deep pockets wanted to assure her future, I am sure that IRM would be interested in taking her into our care as part of the collection. Museum fund raising?. Probably not. We have significant projects in mind that require fund raising efforts and initiating another would risk a lack of focus.
Nigel
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Nigel Bennett
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2017-04-23 14:49
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Nigel,
Like I said, and for the reasons you mentioned, I would not want to see
IRM get into a third-party agreement and then get entangled in all such
risks, as the last thing you folks need is a nasty and costly legal fight
in the future just like what apparently happened at Mid Continent
(if I am correct, there was a dispute involving the Soo Line 2719 some
time ago and it did not end well either). Not to mention, like you said,
there are other pieces of third-party-owned equipment on IRM property,
and IMO, after watching the dispute blow up in North Freedom, I personally
advise that IRM not consider entering into a lease, or as you said, a "use and
commit to make good" deal.
Having said that, I thought I'd mention the idea of IRM purchasing the
Saginaw #2 for several reasons. First, IRM has done transactions with
Mid Continent in the past; the fact that Roger Kramer decided to purchase
the Mt. Harvard coach in 2015 for the museum made me wonder if some
members could pool money together to buy the Saginaw #2 from Skip in a similar
purchase. Second, with the 1630 having the problems you mentioned as it
approaches its 100th birthday, it makes me wonder if it is only a matter of
time before it too has to be completely torn down and rebuilt like the #2 (or
for that matter the 428), and having a newly-rebuilt #2 running in Union would
ensure that steam operations in Union could continue while minimizing wear and
tear on the 1630 by not having to run the decapod as much. Thirdly, like I mentioned in my initial
post, Skip is getting older and who honestly knows how much longer he will live;
I watched you guys take very good care of the 1630 for 20 years, and with that said
have no question IRM would be a great new home for the Saginaw #2 where it would
be so well taken care of it would make Skip proud. Last of all, hate to suggest this, but
perhaps the Saginaw #2 could be a better alternative than continuing on with the UP 428
as it is newly restored (It is also an oil burner and perhaps cost savings can be realized?)?
With that said, it is too bad the dispute between Skip and Mid Continent ended
the way it did. As a longtime IRM visitor, I watched Skip and some very dedicated guys
who worked with him painstakingly labor for years to put the Saginaw #2 back together via my
computer at home and even visited Mid Continent a couple of times while I was in the area to see the
progress in person; they all did a great job and just a matter of one year ago it looked very
promising from my observations. Judging by reading what has been published about the
dispute in the local newspapers and TRAINS magazine, I have rendered my own verdict about
who is at fault in the case (which I will not share on this forum) and have to say I am still very
upset about it because in retrospect it did not have to end the way it did. Oh well. At least
I do not have to drive several hours to North Freedom to get my fill of steam railroading since
we have the 1630 still running and hopefully later this year the Shay will be back on the road
again as well.
As always, Nigel, thank you for being gracious to respond and I cannot thank you and the hardworking
volunteers in the Steam Shop enough for all the great work you do. I am no stranger to the fact that the
efforts at Union and other such museums across America rely on volunteer labor and are operating
on shoestring budgets, and for what you are all doing, you are doing the best you can! Take care! Nathan
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Nathan
on
2017-04-23 19:35
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Good job on the excellent progress with the 1630, Shay 5 and 428 steam engines, Steam Team and Nigel! We appreciate the update. Thanks! Sincerely, Ethan A.
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Ethan Armitage
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2017-05-01 19:18
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A question for the Steam Department; has any preservation work been done on the SP 975 since it arrived at Union? Is the asbestos lagging gone?
Ted Miles, IRM Member
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Ted Miles
on
2017-05-05 15:16
(Reply)
Any chance we'll see the frisco zephyr again? If so, when (if know )?
#4
Jack
on
2017-05-06 21:55
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Question. Will there be steam operating on either June 17th or 18th? Will be visiting from the state of Washington and was just curious. Thanks in advance for any info you can share at this time.
Thanks.
#5
Joe Harper
on
2017-05-16 13:08
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According to the schedule posted yes. This can all change at any time due to mechanical failure without notice.
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Andrew Ossler
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2017-05-31 13:59
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Steam Dept. Crew:
You guys are heroes to a lot of us out in the hinterland!
#6
Ted Douglas
on
2017-05-26 11:01
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Nigel,
Just wanted to say thank you to the Steam Department for putting on a spectacular show tonight (9-2) with the 1630. In all my years visiting IRM, I have to say one of the most memorable experiences I have had was taking that nighttime ride behind your signature engine (even catching some fireworks in the distance during the ride!) and I would definitely do it again!
Keep up the great work; I took a look at the Shay during my visit(she looks great, especially with the black Burlington whistle back on!)and I look forward to seeing her run next year.
Sincerely,
Nathan
P.S. As the Saginaw #2 appears to be heading to a new home in Oregon, I have to say I still think you folks would have gotten a great value if IRM tried to purchase the engine from Skip Lichter! I cannot say enough that it would have been great for operations at IRM and the Steam Department would have taken good care of it. Oh well, as we all know, not everything goes the way we would like it to go in life, and like I said earlier this year, at least the 1630 keeps chugging on, and, with the Shay to soon steam again, will continue to do so for years to come thanks to the great efforts of the Steam Department that were unquestionably on full display tonight!
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Nathan
on
2017-09-02 23:32
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What is going to happen with Rock Island #938? I heard from a few friends that it was being fully restored or is it just cosmetically?
What is the progress on Shay #5?
#8
Brandon
on
2017-09-14 20:46
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#938 is now being painted so she will look a great deal better on display. Great work by Phil and the team. Work done is a cosmetic restoration. At the same time, assessment has been done of the thickness of the sheets of the boiler. This allows an assessment of what would be required to restore to operational condition. My understanding of the results is that significant but not impossible work would be required on firebox wrapper sheet. Doable if you had a sponsor with VERY deep pockets but not as a volunteer weekend project.
#5 has progressed painfully slowly but is expected to be completed over Winter.
Nigel
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Nigel Bennett
on
2017-10-08 13:04
(Reply)
Wen is Shay 5 going to run
#9
Dj
on
2017-10-25 20:56
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